NO

NO

Just go ahead and block my corp.........nay my alliance

Local is offensive and defensive, I think removing local would hurt newer or inexperienced more than it would help. Removing local would not stop gate camps or Intel channels.

yeah old forum rant, just another big shiptoaster's advantage

they all have their whine posts, spam their bad ideas with alts and see who bites.

this awaited me after jumping into GD just minutes ago

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=268662&find=unread

we saw him coming 5 threads ago and were able to prepare

as an expert in spotting troll treads i was able to get through, however forum-warriors would have been an easy target

if I don't make decent posts, i should not show up, it's that simple

Or you could you know, learn to play? If hostiles in local, don't go directly gate to gate. Check galaxy map for recent kills/pod kills, check active pilots in system. It's not hard to avoid getting killed.

They use local as an intel channel etc etc etc... What exactly is stopping you from doing the same...?

The majority of the people crying "remove local from null" would be the exact same people spamming the forums with "not fair, I got killed in null because I didnt know they where in system".

They have intel channels that use local as a basis "x number of pilots, five neuts" or whatever. Set up your own intel channel, start your own corp/alliance that uses local.

Quit crying because you cannot use something they are using against you...

Removing local won't remove the gate camp for starters and it seems that camp was missing a couple things. Bubbles and an instalock tackle.

Stay out of space that doesn't belong to you. Problem solved.

The alliance of people who share common cause and work together should always beat the high sec pubbies making bad posts about how they can't be a ~lone wulf~ elite PvPer in Eve Online.

We are only scared of posting as bad as yours.

I too joined an mmo so I could play on my own

An alliance, defending their space from someone they don't feel should be there? Surely not!

Also, moving this to Features & Ideas Discussion.

If it doesn't show up in local, and you cant scan for it cause it's cloaked, How do you defend your sov against it?

If you read any reasonable science fiction series, or look at how the oceans are dealt with today via satellite tracking, you know that everyone assumes that if you are not in a stealth configuration, you are tracked from coming into a system (ocean) until you leave.

Since much of Eve seems to follow the Traveller Universe in how it is constructed (not the game mechanics or the ships or... but the overall back story and the freedom to operate). It would be reasonable to expect that you should/would be tracked and such tracking information would be available to others moving in the system in good standing.

What I could see is if your standing with the people with Sov (including say Amarr in Highsec) was below zero, that you would not have access to the ships in local. But that the ships in local would have access to the fact that you were there.

So if someone like myself was to transit say Gallente space, I would not be able to see who is in system because my Gallente standings are below zero. On the other hand everyone in the system with standings above zero would know that I am there.

In trading hubs maybe you pay a fee for access to local information - and traffic control.

This might be a fun and useful change to how local works, and it may not.

But it is far more reasonable to see people in local, based on most of current technology and the science fiction literature that probably drove the development of Eve.

It's called a massively multiplayer online game, not a single player game.

It baffles me, it'd be like me turning up to a football game and insisting that I'm going to sit in the middle of the field and stare at the sky. Sure I could do that, and others even do it from time to time, but if that's all I do I'm going to be missing out on a whole load of more interesting stuff.

Uh, yes... You do...
You are asking for a change to allow you to play YOUR way, while stopping us playing OUR way.
You also do not make the rules on how the game should be played, not matter how special you think you are.

I am ok to remove local chat, but not the overview. I don't want to scan things down. There should be a way to see who of your corp/alliance mates are in the same system or nearby.

But I suspect that removing the local chat will remove some of the fun and will make the game look different... i need to try it to feel comfortable with it.

Do you not see how this makes you a hypocrite? You are arguing that we aren't allowed to have our easy way, in our own space, but you want an easy way of traveling into it undetected.

Also, null would get emptier if this change were to be made. Less people would see a reason to be there, as there would be too much risk. I personally would pull all of my mining operations into WH space, as I cant be hot-dropped there and can control the size of the ships that can get to me. High sec incursions would become the lower risk higher profit method of farming isk.

This is a prime example of an idea that you have only considered from your single, narrow viewpoint, and have not considered what the wider consequences of a change like this would be. All you had to do was search the forums for one of the other several hundred threads discussing it.

The issue is harry this wouldn't effect alliances anyways you think it would be that much harder for them to have a cloaky alt or corp member detailed to sit on a gate to provide intel? likely what some or most do anyways not all systems have stations so any intel from them are form alts either posed or cloaked on a gate.

While on paper it sounds like a good idea it would really only hurt smaller groups who don't have a billion people to spread out on gates for intel anyways. No removing local would more of a negative for small group stuff in null then any advantage from it. or I should say any disadvantages to alliances which is what you seem to be after.

Yeah... Great idea.
Come on CCP. **** off the biggest news making section of your playerbase, and the section that provides the majority of higher minerals and T2 components, just as a test, then if it doesn't work, home they come running back when you change it back.

I tell you what Harry (and yes i know this will get me blocked). In the same way, why not try hammering a nail into a wall by smashing your eyeballs into it as hard as you can. If it doesn't work, you can then use a hammer.

lol.
Go back to killing cyno's. Your smacktalk needs work.

Yep, my high sec alt doesn't tend to get many kills.
And you my friend ar far far FAR from pro. You kills a few cynos and haulers and lose a whole load of bombers, and that makes you a pro?

Nah, you've just already blocked my main. and "pros" don;t shoot cynos unless they know it's going to be jumped to. A cyno that someone has already used, is just 10 minutes (or 2 minuts SD) for the cyno pilot to waste, so a pro would leave the pilot to wait out his self destruct timer. a cyno kill on a killboard is worth nothing.

I have to ask though seriously Harry, do you actually consider yourself a pro? Or are you saying it as a joke? If you really believe that is true,you might need to seek professional help.

Every cyno you kills is 2 minutes saved for the pilot you shot. You are helping them, not hurting them. The fact that's all you can do is a testament to the fact that you are terrible at EVE.
Guarantee you will run out of block list space before I run out of alts.

Yes, believe it or not, I understand, and always have. You shoot them out of boredom, and that's fine. The part that's stupid is how you think you are a pro. An actual pro would be too busy killing fools to get bored and need to shoot cynos.
Learn to play before mouthing off about being the best kiddo.

So bored=pro. Thanks for clearing that up. I always though to be pro you had to be good at the game.